DECCOLM - 80/132 columns

Marc Lehmann schmorp at schmorp.de
Tue Jul 27 17:06:57 CEST 2010


On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:17:06PM -0400, Kevin Schoedel <schoedel at kw.igs.net> wrote:
> >Yes, and your bullshit arguments are also not the whole world. ssh is
> >just following the *normal* behaviour that any other similar mechanism
> >follows, and you certainly know that. Pretending that only ssh does this
> >is *bullshit*.
> 
> The canonical example of a "similar mechanism" for a terminal is RS232;
> there is no out-of-band communication other than break.

Of course there is, how do you think do programs such as resize do their
job? Moreso, the programs run on the host computer, not on the temrinal
and can just query the kernel (just like ssh does).

Please think next time.

> >Note: if you want to achieve something, try *arguments*.
> 
> Is it theoretically possible that you could be convinced? If not, I'll stop
> wasting our time.

Yes, by using convincing arguments - none of your arguments were even
correct or applicable for example.

Specifically, you would have to bring an argument that trumps the
backwards compatibility issue - new programs will not use this command
sequence, but old programs desigend for vt100 will, and expect this
behaviour.

It should be obvious that handwaving and bullshitting will not trump breaking
programs - a need has to be demonstrated.

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